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12 July 2011 @ 02:17 pm
Another great Joanne interview  
With TV Guide

TV Guide Magazine: So did your many fans fall for the Season 2 finale cliffhanger? Did they really think you'd left the series?

Joanne Kelly: I actually don't know! [Laughs] I try to stay away from all the blogs and messages boards. I think the writers definitely wanted to create that impression. I haven't been doing any press until now. I'm not active on Twitter. I don't think the network has said anything about my staying with the show. I've just sort of...disappeared. Myka had an emotionally devastating experience with H.G. and she made the choice to leave. Our Season 1 finale was the same thing. Everyone was asking, what happened to Artie [Saul Rubinek]? Has he left the show? [Laughs] This is what we do on Warehouse 13! Somebody always vanishes — and it'll be somebody else at the end of Season 3! But this is science fiction — nobody ever truly goes away.
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Ale: wh13-claudiaale_rambles on July 12th, 2011 09:47 pm (UTC)
Thank you for posting this! :)
I was just reading it, and really enjoyed it. Personally agree about Pete and Myka, and see them more as friends than anything (with maybe just a bit of UST, but not too romantic), but the part of the interview that really got my attention was about Steve being gay? Am I reading that right or did I miss something!? If so, it would be so awesome...
Texty: Claudia Gorgeoustextualdeviance on July 12th, 2011 09:51 pm (UTC)
Yep, Steve is canon gay! Aaron and the gang did a couple of interviews about that a few weeks ago.
Ale: wh13-claudiaale_rambles on July 12th, 2011 10:18 pm (UTC)
I totally did not see that! lol
I liked the guy from start, but for a moment there I was still wondering why would they try to add some kind of rival for Pete. Obviously it wasn't the case, and it makes a lot more sense knowing this.
Clare: W13 - filing suckscorchen on July 12th, 2011 09:58 pm (UTC)
I was laughing at that interview - they were trying so hard to push the Myka/Pete 'tension' and Joanne was all but saying 'seriously, guys, you're imagining it There is no tension.'
Ale: not a redshirtale_rambles on July 12th, 2011 10:22 pm (UTC)
So True! All of her comments are priceless! <3
I especially liked the part of HG being the closest thing to romance for Myka! XD
Clare: W13 - totally canoncorchen on July 12th, 2011 10:26 pm (UTC)
Yes, and she was referring to this coming season, not to season two - even though it works just as well for what has happened in the past. Which means that we're going to see a lot more Myka-Helena interaction... Bwahaha. I am fangirl, see me roar.
Snarctastic & Brutally Honestsunkrux on July 12th, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
You must have missed the part where she neither confirms or denies the possibility of EITHER ship.

TV Guide Magazine: You're kidding, right? This show is Moonlighting all over again!
Kelly: The possibility of romance has always been there but it's not something we've gone after in the scripts. I think that's complete conjecture from people who either do or don't want to see it happen.

So she's basically saying, it's up to how people perceive the way the actors are playing it. :D

Smart lady that Joanne. :D

I also think to a point she's totally kidding with the "you're imagining it". Again, it's about perception and no one's perception is wrong or right, it just is. :D
Clare: W13 - oh wow hardcopiescorchen on July 12th, 2011 11:13 pm (UTC)
Not being familiar with Moonlighting, I possibly missed some subtlety there. But in that particular case, they were pushing that pairing specifically, so she was responding to that one. I agree with you, though, that they're very carefully leaving everything open to interpretation - much better to let people imagine what they want, than to alienate a portion of the viewers by confirming one pairing and denying the possibility of any others. Plus, of course, this isn't a show about romance - it's about the artefacts and the puzzles and the people. I'd be disappointed if they ever let romance become a major part of the show. Which isn't to say that I would cry if they ever let Helena actually hit on Myka instead of just making eyes at her ;)
Snarctastic & Brutally Honest: JK:StickTonguesunkrux on July 12th, 2011 11:24 pm (UTC)
What are you? Twelve? ;) I'm kidding. Moonlighting was on in the late 80's I belive. The lead actors, Cybil Shepard & Bruce Willis had HOT chemistry and the writers totally bollocks it up with how they got them together. Then the show tanked.

Now just about every person in Hollyweird holds this stupid "curse" up to how leads like that (Eddie & Joanne fall into that for a lot of us hetero people) as a chicken shit way to keep from making them a couple. It's a tired, old excuse.

Which is why I like that Joanne lets the fans keep their perceptions of the relationships Myka has with HG & Pete. I'm a Myka/Pete shipper but have no issue with folks shipping Myka/HG. Since I see her relationship with both HG & Pete as being that of best friends, who could have more. :D

I personally would rather see her and Pete together but hey, that's me. ;)
Clare: W13 - oh wow hardcopiescorchen on July 12th, 2011 11:29 pm (UTC)
Less than a month off thirty, actually, but english. I know what you mean, though, a will they won't they vibe has become so much a staple these days in any show with male/female leads that no-one seems to want to break the mould. Sad, really. Still, it does leave us un-catered-for slashers able to put on our goggles and bask in the subtext ;)
Texty: Neillisontextualdeviance on July 12th, 2011 11:40 pm (UTC)
Personally, I think the endless UST--and then a sudden resolution--is what killed Moonlighting. Something similar happened with X-Files, too.

UST is a decent way to hook audiences who like that sort of thing, but creatively, it's a bugaboo for anyone wanting to continue a show over several seasons. If your character arcs rest on that UST, you have to keep it going, often well past the point of believability, and eventually it'll kill the show, either because you're not resolving it, or because you finally do.

This is why I like shows that either have no deliberate UST between their leads--giving them other romantic interests, etc.--or hook them up right away (or have them pre-hooked-up; I love Nick-and-Nora teams.)

I think Fringe has struggled with this somewhat, but they're working through it. The Peter/Olivia shippers were deafening in the first couple of seasons, then they finally hooked them up, and even made the relationship a major umbrella arc plot point, but never focused the actual narrative on the finer points of romance. It was equally a story about daddy issues as love, which felt relatively natural.

I admit that one of my draws for W13 is the unconventional way they've handled romance subplots. They're deliberately bucking tradition, and I like that, because it's so rare.
xine13 on July 13th, 2011 12:11 am (UTC)
I just want to add my two cents to this conversation as it reminds me of the way some of the H.G./Myka fans (not naming names) wildly misinterpreted Joanne's comment in "Reset" about people not seeing the lesbian love to the point where some of the fans were going, "there there you see?! It's cannon because she said so, now shut up losers." Not the exact wording that was used, but more or less that was the way it came across. Just ask sunkrux.

I think Joanne here was more or less again acknowledging the fanbase, and not to break any hearts H.G./Myka will likely not become a cannon couple because in one of last season’s podcasts Jack Kenny himself more or less confirmed it. Think the episode podcast was “Vendetta”. Not sure exactly. But again, if there’s one thing I learned with reading these interviews is that the actors love to tease us fans. Eddie has done this quite often, especially when the subject of Pete and Myka becoming a couple comes up. Maybe they will get together, maybe they won’t. Who knows. The main thing to remember is it’s the creator/showrunner that has the final say in the matter, not the actors.

And again, like sunkrux has said, you H.G./Myka shippers have your subtext, and we Pete/Myka shippers have our subtext. I don’t see it between H.G. and Myka, and some fans will likely even see some form of subtext between Pete and Jinks. Bottom line is not everyone is going to view a certain relationship the same exact way. I certainly don’t see Pete and Myka’s relationship as one between siblings I see it as best friends for life, but again that’s just me. You respect my ship and I’ll respect your ship. Just try not to confuse fanon with cannon.

Edited at 2011-07-13 12:11 am (UTC)
Texty: A/B/C Hometextualdeviance on July 13th, 2011 12:32 am (UTC)
FWIW, I'm not hardcore on any ship here. If I do get into writing in this fandom, I'm more likely to do some rare pairs or something otherwise totally out of left field (like I say, my primary fandom ship is an OT3, so...)

That said, I do think it's kind of interesting that canon in this case is making it necessary to read subtext for a m/f lead ship. It's the same sort of thing that slashers have been doing for millenia as a matter of course, but most het shippers have never really had to do that because their ships are usually spelled out in canon in mile-high letters.

Unless a given canon actually has a pair playing tonsil hockey, it's all subtext, of course, but that the subtext in this case is a lot more subtle--along the same lines as ss subtext usually is--is intriguing. And also one of the reasons I have so much respect for this show. They deliberately buck tradition at every turn, and that's terribly refreshing.
xine13 on July 13th, 2011 01:22 am (UTC)
Like I said not every person is going to the view the same relationship the same way. And in the instance of m/f lead ships, many of them have started off as friends before later evolving into something more romantic in nature, and others sometimes not. I could maybe see how some see the brother/sister thing with Pete/Myka because that's the angle that Jack Kenny said they were going for with the pair currently (mentioned on the S2 DVDs), but at the same time he also went on to say that it's still possible their relationship could change. TBQH their relationship gives me more of a best friends for life vibe, but there are some underlying feelings that they may have for each other. Again though, all open to interpretation.

Actually I've found in the case of most het ships it seems like it's more common now that we get ships that like to stretch the Hell out of the will they/won't they routine, yet the writers refrain from pairing the two characters together even though the viewers have had a truckload of hints thrown at them, like with Booth/Bones for example. In that instance, it's so far past subtext it's like are they going to get together or not already?

Admittedly, one of the things that annoys me to no end more than anything is when a show ends and certain relationships aren't left open-ended and people are randomly paired together just for the Hell of it. This happened with ST: Voyager and I'm still scratching my head as to why the writers felt it necessary to randomly pair two characters just so they could. It was just so out of left field, and felt like a great big kick in the teeth to me.
Texty: Conby Take Youtextualdeviance on July 13th, 2011 01:36 am (UTC)
Yeah, like I say, that's the danger with dragging out UST or basing character arcs entirely on their love lives. UST is cute when it's over the course of a two-hour movie. Not so cute when it's over the course of 50 episodes.

I much prefer a "we're not going there at all" thing to a deliberate UST thing. That way, people can read what they want to into it without feeling they're being jerked around forever, or getting bored and moving on if the payoff does come.

Must say, I think my primary show has more or less redeemed itself with this. They had three series worth of UST with a pair of secondaries, and in the third series it was getting downright ridiculous the way they introduced bizarre subplots to keep them apart. But I think they heard the fan outrage on that, and so over the course of a year gap in canon, they hooked the two up offscreen, and brought them back in the fourth series as an established couple.

They then went on to put them through relationship hell of a completely different sort, which was kind of annoying, but they did end it well--very well, in fact. And they also didn't succumb to trite Disney tropes about it, either, which was very happy-making.

We're not sure if the show's going to get renewed, but if it does, I'll be interested to see where they take the relationship from here. I hope they don't think that the love story ends at the altar. The pair are interesting enough both as individuals and a couple to make a romantic plot work even when they're officially a couple and have no real antagonists for that.
xine13 on July 13th, 2011 02:40 am (UTC)
Exactly. I love Bones, but I can see why the fans were getting fed up. I'm only up to S5 right now, but I read up on the show, spoilers and such, and from what I read, last season was a train wreck.

Well, as far as UST goes I think it's all in the matter as to how it's handled. For instance, Bones again, we have had so many hints/signs/etc. thrown at us that the two leads belong together, yet it seemed liked the writers were trying to see how far they could stretch the UST that it was just getting flat out ridiculous; I mean if these two are so destined to be together, then why the Hell aren't they already? From what I understand they're FINALLY together. Lord knows how it will go.

Oh yeah, I hear ya. Like in the instance that if Pete and Myka ever hook up, I always suspected it'd likely possibly artifact related, or during a mission or something. As Pete said it in the episode "Merge With Caution" "Normal, not in our wheelhouse."

Snarctastic & Brutally Honestsunkrux on July 13th, 2011 04:30 am (UTC)
Ah that explains it, you weren't quite old enough to remember Moonlighting on the telly. ;)

I'm so sick of some of the Hollywood types being all "OH THE MOONLIGHTING CURSE! IT'S THE EVIL! CAN NOT LET IT HAPPEN TO MY SHOW!" when really, imho, it's a fact of the writers (or others possibly) not having faith in their own abilities to continue writing the characters as they've always written them. When people in real life get together (even *gasp* married) they do not change who they are at the core, neither, imho, do characters. They just have to stop thinking about only themselves.

And those of us not into slash can keep our Myka/Pete goggles on as well and bask in THAT subtext. :D It's all good. :D